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    Many Experts Say Christmas Elements Have Pagan Roots


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    Fwd: Re: THE POLITICALLY CORRECT CHRISTLESS CHRISTMAS



    Markus Klinger <markus4jesus@yahoo.ca> wrote:
    Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 09:57:11 -0500 (EST)
    From: Markus Klinger <markus4jesus@yahoo.ca>
    Subject: Re: THE POLITICALLY CORRECT CHRISTLESS CHRISTMAS
    To: "Rev. Skip Wigmore" <lolministries@netzero.net>

    Dear Rev. Skip Wigmore:
    I was very curious.
    Why do we celebrate Christmas really anyways as real Christians?
    I mean I assume you know history, that Jesus was not really born in winter months of December /24th/25th that it was originally tied to many Pagan customs from many pagan cultures. .... Do not get me wrong, I deep inside love the festive holiday, but my conciousness is feeling guilty that we are not being true to our faith though, that we are pleasing Satan more than God by helping the liars and promoters of the Christmas that everyone celebrates world wide, and it has more to do with customs and traditions than God's Words where in MATHEW it says, you VOID GOD's Words by the customs of men instead.
     
    Oh Christmas Tree and its History
     
    The History of Christmas
     
    Are we not nullifying our christian faith by joining in the originally pagan festivities of the Yultide Winter Soltice Holiday that had its roots to Saturnalia and Nithra the Sun God and not the Christ. But the Catholic Church in the 3rd or 4th Century changed it from the pagan gods to the birth of Jesus instead!
    And changed it for the convenience for Pagans to make Christianity popular with Pagans to join the Church and make it more palible for the pagans. And called it Feast Day of the Christ instead Feast Day of the Sun god Nithra!

    The church adopted all the pagan symbolisms and gave them christian names.
     
    I would really like your FEEDBACK on this issue of Concious and the modern secular holiday of modern Christmas and its ancient roots of Christmas. Hey, I do not want to give NO ONE a Hard Time about this, but this has been playing out in the back of my mind. I am split down the middle too! My OLD inner Child who absolutely ADORES and LOVES the Christmas, as I grew up with it, and German Parents, and have 8 kids myself.... But what about our duty to TRUTH and OUR DUTY to GOD and CHRIST for promoting their Mission!?
     
    Are we not compelled to abstain from anything offered to or as idols?! Is the Christmas Tree, despite being pretty and all, still not an act of Idol worship and slapping a nicer name on it to make us feel less guilty about participating in Christmas!
     
    And why do so many still promote a Santa Claus to Children as real, and we tell them the rest of the year NOT to LIE, its not good to lie, but the world and all are lieing about a fat dude named Santa Clause! 
     
    Have you ever noticed when you change the letters in SANTA ... SA TA N ..... spells Satan... and Claus can be CLAWS!!!  So it looks like In Satan's Claws!  We are falling into his claws or Clutches, within his grasp of our souls by giving into Christmas.
     
    Ok, so you think I have gone off the deep end.... Right now, I am JUST THINKING .... I have NOT taken any action against Christmas .... as of yet.  I am split in two about this.  But I think it is a thought ALL CHRISTIANS MUST CONFRONT ASAP.... Don't you think???!!!!
     
    I love a good Christmas party as the next person, but but but what are we doing to our eternal salvation as Christians by being sharers in this?  I will leave that with you to PONDER and get back to me on this okay!?!  Curious on your feedback!
     
    I would LOVE to Hear Back from you on this ASAP as soon as you possibly can. Think about it.  I do not want to spoil anyone's fun or take away from their cheers. But it is an issue I feel compelled to draw some attention to.
     
    I wish you well. God blessings to you always.
     
    Sincerely,
    Your brother in Christ & Faith.
    Markus Klinger
    In London Ontario
    Canada
     
     
     
     
     
     



    Marie M. Buchanan, M.Ps.
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    Fwd: BLUE WATER NAVY UPDATE

    To my Dear Vietnam Vets:
    You must read this.
    In His Service,
    Marie

    "Marie M. Buchanan" <marie.buchanan@yahoo.ca> wrote:
    Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 10:24:08 -0500 (EST)
    From: "Marie M. Buchanan" <marie.buchanan@yahoo.ca>
    Subject: Fwd: BLUE WATER NAVY UPDATE
    To: Marie Buchanan <marielovesashley@yahoo.ca>



    recticuli <recticuli@yahoo.com> wrote:
    Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:52:22 -0800 (PST)
    From: recticuli <recticuli@yahoo.com>
    Subject: BLUE WATER NAVY UPDATE
    To: marie.buchanan@yahoo.ca

    Message : VITAL INFO ON BLUE WATER AGENT ORANGE CLAIMS


    Blue Water Navy
    Posted by: "Steve Burns" snakecharmer550@yahoo.com   snakecharmer550
    Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:42 pm (PST)
    All Blue Water Vets that are trying to get comp., you need to read this..
    Steve

    Dear Readers,

    If you have received the Vietnam Service medal and served offshore in
    Vietnam during that war? The Veterans Court had decided that you
    deserve the presumption of exposure to Agent Orange just as those who
    set foot on mainland Vietnam. This is what the VA's M-21 manual
    provisions of 1991 stated.

    The VA illegally changed the rules in the M-21 manual in 2002 taking
    away this right (so the court said). This is currently on appeal by
    the VA.

    Now the VA is seeking to correctly alter the M-21 provisions by
    giving notice and a time for comment as required when an agency makes
    a "substantive change".

    The VA is trying to wipe out both the 1991, and 2002 M-21 manual
    provisions. Laying the groundwork for a new provision which will
    allow the VA to go back to the same old denying Blue water Navy the
    same rights as their fellow veterans who received the Vietnam Service
    medal
    .

    And at the same time they say that if their appeal to the Federal
    Courts wins, they will withdraw this change and keep the M-21 change
    of 2002.

    WHAT IS THE VA SAYING: they are saying; if we WIN you will lose your
    rights to compensation based on the Vietnam service medal and agent
    orange exposure; And if we lose the appeal we are changing the M-21
    so you will still lose your right to compensation.

    I have copied the submission from the Federal Registry below my
    signature.

    WHAT CAN YOU DO?

    First Make a comment to the VA at the required location (see the text
    of the VA submission for details) that they should accept the
    Veterans Court decision and stop appealing, as the Acting VA
    Secretary Mansfield and former VA Secretary Nicholson have done and
    continue to do. And also stop trying to cheat veterans by changing
    the M-21 manual in an unfair way.

    Next; if you have the Vietnam Service medal and an agent orange
    related condition, but only served offshore Vietnam? you should file
    now before the doors are closed forever.

    Your editor,
    Ray B Davis, Jr
    http://www.valaw. org

    http://veteransinfo .org

    http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/veteransin fo/
    http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/PrayerWarr iorsoftheUSA/
    http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/ChristianV eteransandWives/
    http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/Veterans_ Wives-Families/
    http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/AO- Awareness- and-Info/
    http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/Veteransve nt/
    Regards,
    The unifiedveteranscoalition Team.

    JUST PASSING THIS ALONG - Tom

    http://xsorbit27.com/users5/unifiedveteranscoalition/index.php


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    Marie M. Buchanan, M.Ps.
    Researcher, Webmaster, Pastor-Assistant, Translator, Blogger
    http://360.yahoo.com/marielovesashley
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/How_To_Face_This_New_World_Order/

     

    Fwd: DON'T ABANDON YOUR DESTINY

    Mary Padgett <mpadgettministries@ comcast.net> wrote:
    From:  Mary Padgett Ministries, Inc.
    A Word In Due Season
     
    DON'T ABANDON YOUR DESTINY
     
    Scripture:  Matthew 1:20  " ... Fear not to take unto thee Mary as thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost."
     
    Mary and Joseph were espoused to be married.  'Espoused' among the Hebrews was the legal part of the marriage, meaning that the legal documents had been completed and signed, and that the marriage date had been set.  Even though Mary and Joseph had not come together as man and wife, this legal binding could only be broken by a bill of divorcement.  In the midst of the season of their espousal, Joseph learned that Mary was with child.  His first thoughts were to put her away privately so as not to expose her to public shame.  While he thought upon these things, the angel of the Lord spoke to him.  The angel told Joseph not to fear to take Mary as his wife because the child in Mary's womb had been conceived of the Holy Spirit.
     
    Without fully realizing what was happening in his life, Joseph was in the perfect will of God.  God had chosen him to be the husband of Mary and to act as the natural father who was to care for the Messiah child, Jesus.  For the next few years, Joseph was to protect and provide for the beloved Son of God.  He was also destined to be the instrument that God would use to fulfill many of the prophecies of old as he followed the leading of the Lord and obeyed the visitations of the angels.  But now because of the purpose of God and the divine conception of the Holy Ghost, Joseph was facing public shame and misunderstanding.  In the midst of this conflict, Joseph almost abandoned his destiny by putting Mary away privately, but God faithfully intervened and kept him on course.
     
    Like Joseph's walk with the Lord, God leads us in our natural paths to fulfill His supernatural purposes.  Often we have no idea that God has set before us divine appointments.  We just proceed in the natural toward our goals and plans, thinking that we are only pursuing our dreams and visions, when in reality God has caused us to conceive those desires by planting them in our hearts by the Holy Spirit.  God then opens and closes doors by His wisdom and leads us unknowingly down His paths that He has designed.  Suddenly, the season comes for His perfect plan to be accomplished in our life and great conflicts may accompany it.  We may face many challenges, yet we must never give in to fear or abandon the destiny that God has for us.  We must continue to hold on to the things that have been conceived in our hearts by the Holy Spirit and allow God to complete His work and His plan.  As we allow God to work in our lives, we will stand in wonder as we find ourselves in the right place at the right time, accomplishing something for His kingdom that we never thought possible. +++
     
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    Contact by email : mpadgettministries@ msn.com
     
    Copyright © 2007 Mary Padgett Ministries. All Rights Reserved



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    THE UNPOPULAR TRUTH OF CHRISTMAS - By Marie Buchanan Copyright 2005 (c) - All rights reserved

    THE UNPOPULAR TRUTH OF CHRISTMAS –
    Translation made by : Marie Buchanan, Translator
    Copyright 2005 (c) by Marie Buchanan, M.Ps.
    All rights reserved.
    Almost all in the Christendom celebrate Christmas, send presents and wish usual " Merry Christmas ", taking cheerfully for experience that that must be correct. Actually, it became a so appreciated tradition that we avoid wondering about its origin, origin which we can find in encyclopedia and histories not slanted the church. God's Word does not justify either its annual celebration, but condemns austerely in Galatians 4:10,11: " Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years. I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labor in vain ". So the observance itself, as it is pious or rebellious, is condemned.
    Galatians 4:10-11
    10 You observe [particular] days and months and seasons and years!
    11 I am alarmed [about you], lest I have labored among and over you to no purpose and in vain. AMP
    The blessed Savior did not come to see to it that His birth (...) is popularized by the world. ... " that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief. (1 Timothy 1:15) " Christ died for the ungodly ". (Romans 5:6)
    1 Timothy 1:15
    15 The saying is sure and true and worthy of full and universal acceptance, that Christ Jesus (the Messiah) came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am foremost. AMP
    Romans 5:6
    6 While we were yet in weakness [powerless to help ourselves], at the fitting time Christ died for (in behalf of) the ungodly. AMP
    Nobody knows when the Christ was born.
    Clément, in the second century, considered as "superstitious" the speculations as for date.
    Origène, in A.D. 245, made a fool of the idea and said that it was a sin. The church of Rome, in the fifth century, records: " no certainty existed ".
    In the New International Encyclopedia, we find: " we do not know exactly when it has origin... almost certain that December 25 th cannot be the date.
    The New Catholic Encyclopedia reports: " however incomprehensible it can appear, the date of birthday of the Christ is unknown ". (Vol. 3, p. 655)
    The origin of Christmas
    In the Nelson's Encyclopedia, it is said that December 25 th was " of heathen origin, otherwise sun... The Saturnalia of Romans preceded it ".
    " The day of the ancient holiday of Sol-Invictus (to celebrate the birth of the god-sun).
    ( Americana Encyclopedia)
    " Saturnalia (a holiday of enjoyment without restraint)... The Christmas was fixed at the same time ". Mr. de Beugnot: History of the Destruction of the Paganism in West, Vol. 2, p. 265.
    " The church... returning to the paganism... wishing more festivities, added Christian names to heathen holidays ... The church established Christian festivities, so named, to replace heathen... so paganizing the Christendom to satisfy their carnal thoughts ".
    Augustine tells that the people were so determined to have their holidays, that the clergy pretended to see nothing!
    The tradition of the ancients (Matthew 15:2)
    Matthew 15:2
    2 Why do Your disciples transgress and violate the rules handed down by the elders of the past? For they do not practice [ceremonially] washing their hands before they eat. AMP
    So the tradition emanating of the " god of this world " (2 Corinthians 4:4), appeared from the paganism, was transplanted in the Christendom by fathers unfaithful predecessors, and was developed by the church of Rome, " Babylon the great, the mother of the abominations " (Revelation 17:5). As of children led to believe in Santa Claus, the Christendom was deceived by her " blind guides, leading the blind". (Matthew 15:14)
    2 Corinthians 4:4
    4 For the god of this world has blinded the unbelievers' minds [that they should not discern the truth], preventing them from seeing the illuminating light of the Gospel of the glory of Christ (the Messiah), Who is the Image and Likeness of God. AMP
    Revelation 17:5
    5 And on her forehead there was inscribed a name of mystery [with a secret symbolic meaning]: Babylon the great, the mother of prostitutes (idolatresses) and of the filth and atrocities and abominations of the earth. AMP
    Matthew 15:14
    14 Let them alone and disregard them; they are blind guides and teachers. And if a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a ditch. AMP
    Do not all this break the heart of shame and do not bring us to sigh and to cry for all the abominations practised in the Laodicean Christendom in dishonor for the Name of our blessed Savior? (Psalms 119:158; Jeremiah 15:15-17; Ezekiel 9:4; Philippians 3:18-19). How can we have part in such a joke? How will it appear to the throne of Christ's judgment?
    Psalms 119:158
    158 I behold the treacherous and am grieved and loathe them, because they do not respect Your law [neither hearing, receiving, loving, nor obeying it]. AMP
    Jeremiah 15:15-17
    15[Jeremiah said] O Lord, You know and understand; [earnestly] remember me and visit me and avenge me on my persecutors. Take me not away [from joy or from life itself] in Your long-suffering [to my enemies]; know that for Your sake I suffer and bear reproach.
    16 Your words were found, and I ate them; and Your words were to me a joy and the rejoicing of my heart, for I am called by Your name, O Lord God of hosts.
    17 I sat not in the assembly of those who make merry, nor did I rejoice; I sat alone because Your [powerful] hand was upon me, for You had filled me with indignation. AMP
    Ezekiel 9:4
    4 And the Lord said to him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men who sigh and groan over all the abominations that are committed in the midst of it. AMP
    Philippians 3:18-19
    18 For there are many, of whom I have often told you and now tell you even with tears, who walk (live) as enemies of the cross of Christ (the Anointed One).
    19 They are doomed and their fate is eternal misery (perdition); their god is their stomach (their appetites, their sensuality) and they glory in their shame, siding with earthly things and being of their party. AMP
    It is " an another Jesus ", a popular Jesus adapted to the world! The spirit of Christmas is not of the Holy Spirit, but is " the another spirit " (2 Corinthians 11:4). " The spirit of the world " (1 Corinthians 2:12) " is not of the Father, but is of the world " (1 John 2:16)
    2 Corinthians 11:4
    4 For [you seem readily to endure it] if a man comes and preaches another Jesus than the One we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the [Spirit] you [once] received or a different gospel from the one you [then] received and welcomed; you tolerate [all that] well enough! AMP
    1 Corinthians 2:12
    12 Now we have not received the spirit [that belongs to] the world, but the [Holy] Spirit Who is from God, [given to us] that we might realize and comprehend and appreciate the gifts [of divine favor and blessing so freely and lavishly] bestowed on us by God. AMP
    1 John 2:16
    16 For all that is in the world — the lust of the flesh [craving for sensual gratification] and the lust of the eyes [greedy longings of the mind] and the pride of life [assurance in one's own resources or in the stability of earthly things] — these do not come from the Father but are from the world [itself]. AMP

    A heartless world

    When Christ, God shown in flesh, was born, the world had no place for him (Luke 2:7). " He is disdained and abandoned by the people " he was despised, and we esteemed him not. (Isaiah 53:3). They shouted: Away with him, away with him, crucify him. (John 19:15). " And having crucified him " (Matthew 27:35).
    Luke 2:7
    7 And she gave birth to her Son, her Firstborn; and she wrapped Him in swaddling clothes and laid Him in a manger, because there was no room or place for them in the inn. AMP
    Isaiah 53:3
    3 He was despised and rejected and forsaken by men, a Man of sorrows and pains, and acquainted with grief and sickness; and like One from Whom men hide their faces He was despised, and we did not appreciate His worth or have any esteem for Him. AMP
    John 19:15
    15 But they shouted, Away with Him! Away with Him! Crucify Him! Pilate said to them, Crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar! AMP
    Matthew 27:35
    35 And when they had crucified Him, they divided and distributed His garments [among them] by casting lots so that the prophet's saying was fulfilled, They parted My garments among them and over My apparel they cast lots. [Psalms 22:18.] AMP

    This world is guilty of the murder of the Son of God

    Having got rid of Him, they are now delighted " and make festivities, and they will send presents some in the others " (Revelation 11:10). It is the same principle as to decorate the sepulchres of the prophets that their fathers killed (Matthew 23:29,31). Or, as if Cain, having assassinated his brother, had made of Abel's born birthday, one day of special festivities! So the world which rejects Christ made the annual big event of the imaginary day of the Holy Son of God! They take and desecrate his blessed Name to give way to their carnal pleasures: " the Eternal will not consider as innocent the one who will have taken His Name in vain " (Exodus 20:7).
    Revelation 11:10
    10 And those who dwell on the earth will gloat and exult over them and rejoice exceedingly, taking their ease and sending presents [in congratulation] to one another, because these two prophets had been such a vexation and trouble and torment to all the dwellers on the earth. AMP
    Matthew 23:29
    29 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, pretenders (hypocrites)! For you build tombs for the prophets and decorate the monuments of the righteous, AMP
    Matthew 23:31
    31 Thus you are testifying against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets. AMP
    Exodus 20:7
    7 You shall not use or repeat the name of the Lord your God in vain [that is, lightly or frivolously, in false affirmations or profanely]; for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain. AMP
    Be careful, vain world. " Be not deceived; God is not mocked " (Galatians 6:7). Because He will soon ask for more of the blood of His Son.
    Galatians 6:7
    7 Do not be deceived and deluded and misled; God will not allow Himself to be sneered at (scorned, disdained, or mocked by mere pretensions or professions, or by His precepts being set aside.) [He inevitably deludes himself who attempts to delude God.] For whatever a man sows, that and that only is what he will reap. AMP
    That hurts us to see unfaithful entering cheerfully the holiday without any consciousness of their sins and without affection for the Savior. The same thing maybe said of the professant mass baptized which is never passed by the death in the life (John 5:24; 1 John 3:14). But it hurts to see those who are ''children of light " (Ephesians 5:8; 14-17; Philippians 2:15; 1 Thessalonicians 5: 5-10; 1 Peter 2:9) in the ignorance of this tradition, taken by the wave, trying to take the best - maybe by using some verse of God's Word, or meeting the needs of the poors, or singing Christmas carols (Deuteronomy 12:8; Romans 12:2).
    John 5:24
    24 I assure you, most solemnly I tell you, the person whose ears are open to My words [who listens to My message] and believes and trusts in and clings to and relies on Him Who sent Me has (possesses now) eternal life. And he does not come into judgment [does not incur sentence of judgment, will not come under condemnation], but he has already passed over out of death into life. AMP
    1 John 3:14
    14 We know that we have passed over out of death into Life by the fact that we love the brethren (our fellow Christians). He who does not love abides (remains, is held and kept continually) in [spiritual] death. AMP
    Ephesians 5:8
    8 For once you were darkness, but now you are light in the Lord; walk as children of Light [lead the lives of those native-born to the Light]. AMP
    Ephesians 5:14-17
    14 Therefore He says, Awake, O sleeper, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall shine (make day dawn) upon you and give you light. [Isaiah 26:19; 60:1,2.]
    15 Look carefully then how you walk! Live purposefully and worthily and accurately, not as the unwise and witless, but as wise (sensible, intelligent people),
    16 Making the very most of the time [buying up each opportunity], because the days are evil.
    17 Therefore do not be vague and thoughtless and foolish, but understanding and firmly grasping what the will of the Lord is. AMP
    Philippians 2:15
    15 That you may show yourselves to be blameless and guileless, innocent and uncontaminated, children of God without blemish (faultless, unrebukable) in the midst of a crooked and wicked generation [spiritually perverted and perverse], among whom you are seen as bright lights (stars or beacons shining out clearly) in the [dark] world, AMP
    1 Thessalonians 5:5-10
    5 For you are all sons of light and sons of the day; we do not belong either to the night or to darkness.
    6 Accordingly then, let us not sleep, as the rest do, but let us keep wide awake (alert, watchful, cautious, and on our guard) and let us be sober (calm, collected, and circumspect).
    7 For those who sleep, sleep at night, and those who are drunk, get drunk at night.
    8 But we belong to the day; therefore, let us be sober and put on the breastplate (corslet) of faith and love and for a helmet the hope of salvation.
    9 For God has not appointed us to [incur His] wrath [He did not select us to condemn us], but [that we might] obtain [His] salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ (the Messiah)
    10 Who died for us so that whether we are still alive or are dead [at Christ's appearing], we might live together with Him and share His life. AMP
    1 Peter 2:9
    9 But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a dedicated nation, [God's] own purchased, special people, that you may set forth the wonderful deeds and display the virtues and perfections of Him Who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light. [Exodus 19:5,6.] AMP
    Deuteronomy 12:8
    8 You shall not do according to all we do here [in the camp] this day, every man doing whatever looks right in his own eyes. AMP
    Romans 12:2
    2 Do not be conformed to this world (this age), [fashioned after and adapted to its external, superficial customs], but be transformed (changed) by the [entire] renewal of your mind [by its new ideals and its new attitude], so that you may prove [for yourselves] what is the good and acceptable and perfect will of God, even the thing which is good and acceptable and perfect [in His sight for you]. AMP

    A single holiday in the Christian calendar

    The Lord has never asked us to celebrate annually his birth nor to celebrate annually his resurrection, but he expressed His desire that we celebrate the memorial of His death. Every first day of the week (Acts 20:7), the day of His resurrection, the day of the new creation, supplies suitably the occasion to those who are new creatures in Christ to meet in His invaluable Name only (Matthew 18:20), outside the camp (systems adapted to what pleases the man) (Hebrews 13:13), to announce " the death of the Lord until He comes " " do this... in memory of Me " (1 Corinthians 11:25-26).
    Acts 20:7
    7 And on the first day of the week, when we were assembled together to break bread [the Lord's Supper], Paul discoursed with them, intending to leave the next morning; and he kept on with his message until midnight. AMP
    Matthew 18:20
    20 For wherever two or three are gathered (drawn together as My followers) in (into) My name, there I AM in the midst of them. [Exodus 3:14.] AMP
    Hebrews 13:13
    13 Let us then go forth [from all that would prevent us] to Him outside the camp [at Calvary], bearing the contempt and abuse and shame with Him. [Leviticus 16:27.] AMP
    1 Corinthians 11:25-26
    25 Similarly when supper was ended, He took the cup also, saying, This cup is the new covenant [ratified and established] in My blood. Do this, as often as you drink [it], to call Me [affectionately] to remembrance.
    26 For every time you eat this bread and drink this cup, you are representing and signifying and proclaiming the fact of the Lord's death until He comes [again]. AMP

    Marie M. Buchanan, M.Ps.
    Researcher, Webmaster, Pastor-Assistant, Translator, Blogger
    http://360.yahoo.com/marielovesashley
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    Fwd: WILDERNESS TRAINING

    I am also thinking about the physical wilderness training here because of the soon coming persecution (not the 7 years tribulation) falling upon America and Canada.  In other words, this message is very good for the spiritual wilderness training as well as the physical wilderness training.  Trust more God than the government and if you think you are more secure in a big city, you are wrong to say the least.

    I know nothing for now about the physical wilderness training but I most definitively want to learn it and I'll find a way to do so.  Thanks Frankie for your insight and please post directly to my groups.

    In His Service,

    HffmnLd@aol.com wrote:
    From: HffmnLd@aol.com
    Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 11:11:06 EST
    Subject: WILDERNESS TRAINING
    To: Garden_of_God_Prayer_Group@yahoogroups.com, covenanteam@yahoogroups.com,
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    Why did God send the Hebrews through wilderness training?
     
    Today many people have gotten into what is modernly called wilderness training. It has become fashionable and what was once a fad with radical people or used mainly by the military has now become something everyone talks about.
     
    However, wilderness training is nothing new it goes back thousands and thousands of years.
    When God rescued the Hebrews from Egyptian slavery they immediately went into wilderness training.
    Here was a unique chance for a people whose entire existence had become one of serving their slave masters, to become independent, rugged, stable, hearty, and knowledgeable about the God who took them from Egypt.
    Unfortunately as in many cases such as conditions that prisoners of war experience, they had become dependent upon their captors, fearful of life without the strict supervision of someone who controlled every area of their lives.
     
    They had a difficult time setting their thinking free. 
    God offered them His protection and provision while sending them along a rugged and rough course.  Just like in modern wilderness training these conditions teach individuals that they are capable of survival and strengths that they were unaware they possessed.
     
    How many times in this life are we put through tests that would at time almost seem to break us?  If you are like me there have many.  If you are also like me you have learned that you can survive, did survive and amazed yourself and were amazed at what God did in each situation.
    Perhaps at times it even seemed that God was aloof, leaving you to wonder about on your own.  Those were the times you had to rely upon Him more and rely upon your own character and faith not only in God but in yourself.
     
    You see you were built with strengths that most probably will never be fully tested in your lifetime, you have a survival mechanism built right into the innermost part of your being.  Don't dismiss it or turn it off, it is there for a reason, it is there to show you that you are created in the IMAGE OF THE MOST HIGH GOD. 
     
    You possess remarkable character, wisdom, strength, knowledge, understanding, leadership, heart, and soul.  You are a creation of exceptional quality straight from the drawing board of the most talented creator that has even been in existence.
     
    When you go through wilderness training, and you most likely will many times, make the best of it, glean everything you can from it, take everything you can carry away from it for it is to prepare and equip you for the journey ahead. 
     
    REMEMBER YOU CAN DO IT, YOU WERE CREATED FOR IT.
     
    May God bless your journey and may you realize who you are in Him.
    Love and hugs,
    Sis Frankie






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    i_amgodschild <i_amgodschild@yahoo.com> wrote:
    Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:08:52 -0800 (PST)
    From: i_amgodschild <i_amgodschild@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Courageous, Selfless Ministry by the Grace of God
    To:
    Marie Buchanan <marielovesashley@yahoo.ca>,

    Courageous, Selfless Ministry by the Grace of God




    Courageous, Selfless Ministry by the Grace of God

    But none of these things move me; nor do I count my life dear to myself, so that I may finish my race with joy, and the ministry which I received from the Lord Jesus, to testify to the gospel of the grace of God. (Act_20:24)

    Paul was given ministry by the grace of God. "I became a minister according to the gift of the grace of God given to me" (Eph_3:7). To put it another way, he received his ministry from the Lord: "the ministry which I received from the Lord Jesus." Paul's bountiful ministry was developed by the grace of God. "I labored more abundantly than they all, yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me" (1Co_15:10). Also, his ministry was to declare God's grace: "to testify to the gospel of the grace of God." Paul's life demonstrates that such "grace saturated" service leads to courageous, selfless ministry.

    Paul's ministry was courageous. "But none of these things move me." The things that Paul faced were formidable. "The Holy Spirit testifies in every city, saying that chains and tribulations await me" (Act_20:23). Down through the centuries, matters less substantial than these have moved many a professing Christian from completing his calling. Yet, by leaning upon the sustaining grace of God, Paul courageously endured great hardship and danger in the service of the gospel of grace. "But in all things we commend ourselves as ministers of God: in much patience, in tribulations, in needs, in distresses, in stripes, in imprisonments, in tumults, in labors, in sleeplessness, in fastings" (2Co_6:4-5).

    Related to this courageous service was Paul's selflessness: "nor do I count my life dear to myself." Soon, he would encounter another sober warning. It was given from a prophet of the Lord, who took Paul's belt and bound his own hands and feet. "So shall the Jews at Jerusalem bind the man who owns this belt, and deliver him into the hands of the Gentiles" (Act_21:11). Those standing by, who loved Paul deeply, urged him not to proceed. Nevertheless, Paul confessed his willingness to even lose his life for the gospel, if necessary. "Then Paul answered, 'What do you mean by weeping and breaking my heart? For I am ready not only to be bound, but also to die at Jerusalem for the name of the Lord Jesus' " (Act_21:13). Such renouncing of self allowed Paul to "finish [his] race with joy." Thus his final testimony would become, "I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith" (2Ti_4:7).

    Jesus, my Lord and Master, You know the things that threaten to move me away from Your calling for me. You know the times I am tempted to hold my life dear, wanting to shrink back in a self-serving manner. Please saturate my life with Your grace that I might serve courageously and selflesslyAmen.i_amgodschild








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    How would you like to give the best holiday gift ever? And what if it cost you absolutely nothing? By speaking out on the issue of impeachment, you have ALREADY contributed to that gift on the installment plan, the gift of constitutional rule of law, to be cherished for generations to come.

    We just need to keep speaking out, in greater and greater numbers, and keep encouraging everyone we know and encounter to do the same, and we bring that gift home. Today, we learned that a 23rd member of
    the House, Raul Grijalva (AZ), has signed on to H.Res 799 (previously H.Res. 333) to impeach Cheney first.

    And what better way to spread the holiday message of impeachment than with the ultimate mobilization tool, a collector's item "Impeach Cheney?" cap to give to a friend or family member? We have nearly another 1,000 packed up ready to do out tomorrow for those of you have requested one in the last week or so, and we want to make sure
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    If you want us to send you one, as someone who has already made their voice heard on one of the impeachment action pages, all you have to do is email us back and send us a mailing address and we will send you one for no charge, not even shipping. And all we ask of you is this: If you CAN make a donation of any amount, to help us keep this movement building, please instead use the following page to make your
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    And please also remember you are not just helping with the cap initiative. You also know that we are even now in the middle of shipping out the THIRD printing of 25,000 full color 11x17 Impeach Cheney posters, going up on college campuses all over the country. We're probably going to drop upward of a couple thousand dollars tomorrow just for the poster shipping alone. Maybe you would like a poster to give out as a gift instead. Maybe you would like a cap AND a poster. If so, please use this page instead.

    IMPEACHMENT POSTER: http://www.usalone.com/impeach_cheney_flyer.php

    And again, if you want a poster, just email us back with a mailing address and we'll send you one. Or if you only want to just help with a contribution to defray these mounting shipping costs, please use the form above to do that.

    Or maybe you would like to also join the now 1,400 volunteers we already have spreading out all over college campuses all over the country, forming into Impeach Teams in virtually very major city in the country. Just submit the form above and request as many posters as you like, and we'll do everything we can to get them to you as soon as possible. And you if can't contribute anything, to even cover the postage, email us, tell us you want to help, that you want to be
    on the Impeach Team, and we will come through for you.

    The developments of the last couple days have finally stunned even the mainstream media, with the revelation that Cheney and Bush have been fear-mongering a new war in Iran even as they knew their nuclear weapon boogie man was totally bogus. It is reported that top CIA senior intelligence officers were literally prepared to go to jail by leaking the new NIE (National Intelligence Estimate) if it were not released.

    And what makes it so egregious, is that Cheney himself, just as in the cooking of the intelligence books in the run up to the Iraq invasion has been all over the CIA pressuring them to change their conclusions. Again and again, over the last year, he has rejected this same NIE, demanding that it be done over and over. And when finally he could contain the truth no longer he lies again and tells us they wanted us to have the information.

    Some may think this must surely be the end of the road of their planned Iran attack. But they are so pathologically unrepentant that we can take no such assurance. The way we see their rabid dogs on the extreme right jumping all over the cable TV channels trying to Swift Boat the CIA, while at the same time dismissing their conclusions, tell us they have learned nothing, and are not interested in learning anything.

    When you hear Bush claim, as he did today, that he takes the NIE report as some kind of affirmation, you know we are dealing with the truly incorrigible, and that the current administration REMAINS an immediate and ongoing danger to the peace and security of our own country and the entire world. When you hear Cheney again growl about the necessity for "serious consequences", you know there must be
    serious consequences for the shredding of our constitution and the betrayal of our worldwide strategic interests, and those serious consequences are impeachments.

    Only impeachment will stop them. Only impeachment.

    Has is ever been more apparent, watching Bush stumble through yet another press conference, telling lie after documentable lie, each one bigger than the last, that's he's just reading from Cheney's crib notes for him? Has it ever been more apparent that the bottom line problem is Cheney and his behind the scenes manipulations, from the day he manipulated the process into installing himself as Vice
    President? And rest assured of one thing, that once Cheney is
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    National Lawyers Guild and Society of American Law Teachers Strongly Oppose Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act

    Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act - Nat. Lawyers Guild and Law Teac

    Posted by: "D. Reid" deborahgailreid@yahoo.com   deborahgailreid

    Tue Dec 4, 2007 4:05 am (PST)

    "W.G.E.N." <idzrus@earthlink. net> wrote:

    From: "Joe and Barb McCutchen" <joeusa@cox.net>
    Subject: FW: National Lawyers Guild and Society of American Law Teachers Strongly Oppose Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act
    Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 02:40:25 -0600

    All of Arkansas Reps voted for this treasonous, seditious act. More PCBS attacks on our individual freedoms and the 1st Amendment. (Arkies think of Sen. Altes)

    When dissent is not “allowed” we are smack dab in the middle of Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia, Communist China, etc. The most frightening aspect of all is how many people jump on board that ship and willingly comply with tyrannical control, never realizing THEY could be next.

    “Homegrown terrorism” is straight out of Sci-Fi, i.e. if some “official” doesn’t like your speech, thought, sentiment, ideas, philosophy, etc……it is “off with your head” rhetoric and action. We have indeed entered a new low when the ACLU, SPLC, LULAC, La Raza, etc can control US policy & attitude…many of which are subsidized by taxpayer dollars.

    www.arkansasfreedom .com

    From: Jan [ mailto:Igniting@mach3isp. com]
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    Subject: National Lawyers Guild and Society of American Law Teachers Strongly Oppose Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act

    (More proof of who the real terrorist are - Americans who disagree with their government. While the borders are wide open, we are searched at the airports and surveilled in our homes and where ever we go. Are you awake yet?)

    National Lawyers Guild and Society of American Law Teachers Strongly Oppose Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act
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    December 02, 2007 -- RaidersNewsNetwork. com -- On October 23, 2007, the House of Representatives passed the Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007 by a vote of 404-6. The bill will be referred out of committee this week and will then go to the Senate floor. The National Lawyers Guild and the Society of American Law Teachers strongly oppose this legislation because it will likely lead to the criminalization of beliefs, dissent and protest, and invite more Draconian surveillance of Internet communications.

    This bill would establish a Commission to study and report on "facts and causes" of "violent radicalism" and "extremist belief systems." It defines "violent radicalism" as "adopting or promoting an extremist belief system for the purpose of facilitating ideologically based violence to advance political, religious, or social change." The term "extremist belief system" is not defined; it could refer to liberalism, nationalism, socialism, anarchism, communism, etc.

    "Ideologically based violence" is defined in the bill as the "use, planned use, or threatened use of force or violence by a group or individual to promote the group or individual's political, religious, or social beliefs." Thus, "force" and "violence" are used interchangeably. If a group of people blocked the doorway of a corporation that manufactured weapons, or blocked a sidewalk during an anti-war demonstration, it might constitute the use of "force" to promote "political beliefs."

    The bill charges that the Internet "has aided in facilitating violent radicalization, ideologically based violence, and the homegrown terrorism process in the United States by providing access to broad and constant streams of terrorist-related propaganda to United States citizens." This provision could be used to conduct more intrusive surveillance of our Internet communications without warrants.

    This legislation does not criminalize conduct, but may well lead to criminalizing ideas or beliefs in violation of the First Amendment. By targeting the Internet, it may result in increased surveillance of Internet communications in violation of the Fourth Amendment.

    The National Lawyers Guild and the Society of American Law Teachers strongly urge the Senate to refuse to pass the Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007.

    Founded in 1937 as an alternative to the American Bar Association, which did not admit people of color, the National Lawyers Guild is the oldest and largest public interest/human rights bar organization in the United States. Its headquarters are in New York and it has chapters in every state.

    The Society of American Law Teachers (SALT) is a community of progressive law teachers working for justice, diversity and academic excellence. SALT is the largest membership organization of law faculty and legal education professionals in the United States.

    Contacts: *Marjorie Cohn, NLG president, marjorie@tjsl. edu; 619-374-6923
    *Eileen Kaufman & Tayyab Mahmud, SALT co-presidents, eileenk@tourolaw. edu, (631)761-7125; Mahmud@seattleu. edu, (206) 398-4148

    Also see

    Senate Bill 1959 to Criminalize Thoughts, Blogs, Books and Free Speech Across America

    Fear-mongering legislation: The Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act


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    Fwd: Re: [How_To_Face_This_New_World_Order] GOD DOES NOT REQUIRE HIS PEOPLE TO

    --- In How_To_Face_This_New_World_Order@yahoogroups.com, monty collier <monty_collier2000@...> wrote:

    Marie,
    I can see why this guy refused to debate James White (who I consider to be not very well trained in Calvinism).  White would have swallowed this little fish whole.
       
    He tries to shield himself when he claims that his views will be misrepresented by Calvinists.  Here he hopes that we will simply accept his nonsense as true.  He depends greatly upon such rhetorical devices in his e-mail.  There is little logical reasoning from the Scriptures.
       
    The man does not understand that both infralapsarians and supralapsarians both agree that God decreed the fall of Adam.  John Owen is the greatest infralapsarian of his time, probably in history.  He clearly states that the decree of God extends to the fall.  Read John Owen's books against Arminianism and certainly read his book "The Death of Death in the Death of Christ."  He might consider the fact that if an omnipotent God permits something to happen, then He actively permitted it to come to pass, that is, He wanted it to.  People may have to permit something to come to pass because they don't have the power to stop it, but God has all the power and knowledge to stop anything He doesn't want to come to pass.  
       
    He brings up a division between "old" and "new" school Calvinists.  This terminology applied to the Baptists in America during the early 1800's.  The New School Baptists believed, like our author, in free will and a general atonement (Andrew Fuller was one of them).  The Old School Baptists held that God determines whatsoever comes to pass (no human free will) and that Christ died for only the elect.  Gilbert Beebe and Samuel Trott are examples of Old School Baptists.  Anyways, David Cloud's scholarship is greatly lacking here, but we will see later that he doesn't care much for knowledge.
       
    He accuses Calvin of being "unsound" in his foundation.  Calvin claimed that the foundation of all doctrine is Scripture Alone.  Is David Cloud here attacking the infallibility of Scripture?
    Some adherents to human free will do acknowledge that the Bible has mistakes and contradictions in it.  Calvinism claims that the Bible is the Axiom of Christianity and it has no mistakes or contradictions.  The Bible is infallible and inerrant.
       
    He accuses Calvin of "Baptismal Regeneration".
    If you read the "Institutes of the Christian Religion", apparently David has not, then you would see that Calvin speaks of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit as being that which applies Christ's redemption.  Calvin rejects the Catholic view of Baptismal regeneration.  In book IV, chapter 15, section 1, page 513 of the Beveridge Edition, Calvin writes, "Baptism is the initiatory sign by which we are admitted to the fellowship of the Church."    Calvin teaches that Baptism is a sign, not the thing signified.  When people intentionally misrepresent Calvin, then we have to correct them.  Commenting on 1 Peter 3:21 Calvin writes, "For he did not mean to intimate that our ablution and salvation are perfected by water, or that water possesses in itself the virtue of purifying, regenerating, and renewing;  nor does he mean that it is the cause of salvation" (ibid, page 513).
       
    David Cloud makes the claim that Calvin had men executed for not accepting his view of the Lord's Supper.  I've read for years on Calvin, but never this.  David gives no citation, so I guess we are simply to believe him.  He is probably lying.
       
    The claim that Calvin had Servetus executed has been distorted for centuries by Calvin's enemies.  It was a counsel that condemned Servetus to death.  Calvin actually tried to talk them out of it.  Calvin did not have political control over the government of Geneva.  He was even banished once by the counsel.  So you can see that Calvin didn't always get listened to in Geneva.  You can read about it in The Works Of Benjamin B. Warfield, Volume 5, chapter 1, page 3.
       
    One funny thing I will point out in David Cloud's paper is when he claims that he has never completely agreed with any man's theology.  Let's look at a syllogism and see what this implies.
       
    1)  David Cloud is one who never completely agrees with anyone's theology
    2)  David Cloud is one who has a theology
    3)  Therefore, David Cloud is one who never completely agrees with his own theology.
       
    Just thought I would point that out.
       
    David Cloud claims that Calvin was a philosopher by training.  This is a false claim.  Calvin was trained in law.  See Warfield's work "John Calvin: The Man And His Work".  It is in volume V of Warfield's works.
      
    David Cloud makes an enormous mistake when he claims that the Bible is against philosophy.  He cites Colossians 2:8.  If you read the verse carefully, then you will see that it is warning against philosophy that is other than what the Bible teaches.   Paul is warning people to not follow any philosophy that is "after the tradition men...and not after Christ."  Though many today have never heard it from our Arminian pulpits in this nation, there is a Christian philosophy.  The Bible teaches a comprehensive epistemology, metaphysics, ethics, politics, economics, and so on.
       
    David Cloud tries to twist Ephesians 1:11 from meaning that God has decreed whatsoever comes to pass.  The verse clearly states that whatever happens is purposed by God and brought to pass by God's counsel.  Notice there is no mention here of man's counsel as having a hand in the execution of God's purposes.  God's counsel is called the "determinate counsel" in Acts 2:23, but David conveniently left that interesting detail out.
       
    David Cloud makes a real effort to not say that he believes in human free will in this paper, but he asserts this everywhere.  The reason he tries not to openly say this is because he will instantly be labled an Arminian or a Pelagian.  Anyways, he claims that God wills all men, regardless of election or reprobation, to be saved.  You can make this claim, though the Bible does not, but if you make this claim, then you need to explain how this claim does not contradict the fact that most people are not saved.  How can an omnipotent God not accomplish the task of saving His creatures?  Wasn't he strong enough?  This is where David needs desperately to introduce his humanist theory of free will.  Where does the Bible ever teach that man has free will apart from God?  There is not even one verse that teaches that man has free will.
       
    David Cloud attempts to smuggle the humanist theory of free will into the Bible by claiming that "God gives man a choice."   What God does is command sinful men to keep the law and believe the Gospel.  God's command that we be perfect, does not imply that we can be, but rather, it demonstrates that we can not be perfect.  Some people have grasped the Pelagian philosophy and concluded that we can be perfect in this life--Thomas Richards for example.  We can not keep God's law for we are sinners.  Commands do not imply ability.  The idea that commands imply ability is Pelagianism.  A general can command a single soldier to walk on the water, but this does not imply that the soldier can.  We command our children to be good, but does this imply that they can be?   Not according to Paul (Romans 3:10-12).
       
    Arminians like to present imperative verses as proof of free will, but what they do not understand is that you can not deduce from a command.  A command tells you what you OUGHT to do, but it does not tell you what you CAN do.  Big difference.  Martin Luther's work "The Bondage Of The Will" is excellent on this point.
       
    At one point, David Cloud attacks the intellect by claiming that if you have a vocabulary greater than the third grade, then there must be something wrong with you.  This is an attack on education and knowledge.  If you enter into the field of law, do you expect that you will do well if you never learn the legal vocabulary?  You will not pass the bar.  The Bible has its vocabulary, and there are many terms that have been developed to represent doctrines the Bible teaches.  For example, the Trinity is one such term.  The word is not found in the Bible, but the Bible teaches that there is one God and three persons in the Godhead.  Does David Cloud not believe in the Trinity?  Why would he attack Christian vocabulary then?
       
    Finally, David Cloud doesn't want to be called an Arminian.  He says he can not be labled as one.  Well, Shakespeare said it best:  a rose by any other name is still the same.
       
    There is plenty more to refute, but I have responsibilities to attend to.
    Read the essays at trinityfoundation.org
    You well get a much better understanding of the Bible there, than from the poor scholarship of David Cloud.
       
    Sola Fide,
    Monty L. Collier

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    Being surrounded by danger and death creates indelible memories for veterans

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    Being surrounded by danger and death creates indelible memories for veterans

    By JAMES A. FUSSELL

    The Kansas City Star

    Recently we talked with veterans from World War II, Korea, Vietnam, Desert Storm and the current conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan to learn more about what they faced, how it affected them and how they feel about it. This is our final veterans roundtable. To read previous installments, go to KansasCity.com.
    Q. What's the one moment from your experience in war that you will never forget?
    Roy Shenkel (World War II): When I mention this I choke. My waist gunner. Just seeing the panic and the fear he had in his face when (our plane got shot down). And then when I found out later what had happened to him. They saw him dangling on the tail of the aircraft. He had pulled his chute too soon.
    There were just so many things (like) being hungry and knowing that people cared enough that they shared their food with you. That shows kindness and love …
    And then there was another thing. (At the prison camp) you were told you were not to jump out of a window. If you did, you'd be shot. One evening about 6 o'clock I heard a rifle shot. I ran out of the barracks to the barracks to my left. I ran over there, and I looked down, and there was a young kid on the ground, face down, dead. He had made a mistake.
    Joseph L. Dickerson (Korean War): I'll always remember when the shells were falling all around me when we were going up that dang hill. I was scared. It felt like somebody just picked up a big piece of dirt next to you, and then you hear the noise. It was at night, so you couldn't see. But there were just big flashes of explosions. I can't forget that.
    Maj. Jason "Tank" Sherman (Iraq and Afghanistan): One thing I'll always remember are the mass casualty evacuations of the Canadian (soldiers) after they had gotten hit. A guy on a bicycle rode by with a bomb on him and blew it up. We were sitting on the ground (in a helicopter). We were the last one getting most of the people. And there were these two girls that we were wanting to take. And I just remember sitting on the ground pretty much begging the Apache pilot overhead to tell the tech operations center that we need to take these kids. And just the feelings going through thinking they weren't going to let us take them, and we were going to have to leave them there to die.
    Patrick Ratterman (Desert Storm): Probably right around the same lines as Tank — seeing children get injured. Those little cluster bombs that were dropped look like a ball, and kids just love a ball. They will pick it up and play with it. They'll bounce it and throw it back and forth to each other. It looks like a baseball (only) it's made out of metal with an explosive core. It's the most inhumane weapon we used in the Gulf. And there's still a bunch of them there today. There were just hundreds of those around the village of Safwan, Iraq, where we kind of ended up.
    The one moment I'll never forget? Hearing a bang, and looking off to my left and seeing a little boy, a 9-year-old, who basically had his face removed. It turned out he and his buddy were just playing with a "ball."
    Q. Overall, did your life improve or worsen because of your military experience?
    Patrick Ratterman (Desert Storm): I think initially it worsened to the point of a nervous breakdown a couple years ago. That's what it took to get me to the VA to get some help. But with the help the VA is giving me, I am seeing improvement in my life now.
    I'm very proud of my service and, looking back on it, it did throw a wrench in my life considerably. I had a nice job with the state when I left. I was working with delinquent kids, and then (after the trauma experienced in the war) that led into a series of jobs, each one worse than the next. Even with that in mind, I still wouldn't change a thing. I'm glad I went.
    Maj. Jason "Tank" Sherman (Iraq and Afghanistan): I'd have to say it improved because I came home from the last one, got my wife pregnant and had my third child, so I guess that's an improvement. I've figured I've served my country, which makes me feel better.
    Probably the only negative is I'm really not too tolerant of people who whine and complain about little inconveniences in their life. The last time I was with the 10th Mountain unit — that was their third 10-month deployment to a combat zone with kids at home. Injured soldiers compared to, "Oh, I can't go out to eat this weekend." It kind of puts the world in perspective for you.
    I also think my life would be different if there hadn't been a war because the job I hold now with the reserves was vacated by a guy who deployed, and when he came back he said he can't deploy anymore, so he quit the job. So I probably would still be on active duty, but as far as a person it gave me a better respect for what the veterans before me had gone through.
    Gary Shepard (Vietnam War): It's probably worse in some ways overall. But there have been some good things, too. I know where I am going when I die. And that's a pretty good thing to know.
    Joseph L. Dickerson (Korean War): It improved. But it took me 50 years to get diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder.
    And it took me 50 years to get (my purple heart and other medals). The VFW had to get them for me. When I went to Korea there was a lot of action, and my company had just come off a hill, and they lost three-quarters of the guys. The paperwork just didn't follow me.
    And then when I was in a hospital healing from my wound, they found I had jaundice because I had drank some of the water from one of the wells going through a village. But overall, I learned a lot and got jobs I wouldn't have had without it. Overall, I'd say it improved.

     

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    To My Friend in Christ, J.C. Tiger

    Please ask me if you want a good translation software so you would understand what I posted in my mother tongue and I did that because the folks who are caring about me will translate this little post. J.C. Tiger is a old friend. He is a French Canadian who served the U.S. in Nam war and is perfectly bilingual. He is now serving mostly the American and Canadian Vets through a yahoo group of about 9000 members. He is not at BC and I am proud to have him as a friend. Thank you.

    _________________________________

    To My Friend in Christ, J.C. Tiger


    Thank you for your comfort and thank you for being there since my husband's death. I will blog this everywhere. What I do admire about you is that you are not there only and just for PTSD members. I wish to see you someday.



    In His Love and Service,


    Marie


    Re: Welcome To My World

    Seigneur, je sais que tu es là, bien présent. Je sais que tu vois, que tu entends tout ce qui se passe et tout ce qui se dit. Seigneur, je sais que tu es omniscient et que pas une seule seconde n'échappe à ton contrôle. Tu n'as pas à te faire expliquer les choses. Tu connais la situation depuis le tout début, tu en connais aussi l'issue. Comme c'est rassurant et comme c'est réconfortant. Ni besoin de te raconter, ni besoin de se questionner. Je sais que déjà tu agis et ce, de façon juste et correcte. Jamais tu ne commets d'erreurs. Avec toi Seigneur, aucune injustice ne prévaut. Oui, comme c'est rassurant et comme c'est réconfortant. Je te loue, grâces et louanges à toi Seigneur. Merci d'être là.
    =================================================================
    --- In PTSDveteranSupport@yahoogroups.com, Marie Buchanan <marielovesashley@...> wrote:

    Non seulement on contrôle totalement ma vie mais la population en général me blâme pour tout ce qu'il m'arrive.

    Bienvenue dans le Nouvel Ordre Mondial.

    Malheureusement, ton tour s'en vient pas mal plus vite que tu le penses de jouir de la vie comme j'ai le « privilège » d'en jouir présentement et je suis désolée pour ce qui va t'arriver parce que tu vas voir que la vie n'est vraiment pas facile, mon cher Citoyen Américain et Canadien.

    Dieu est bon quoiqu'il m'arrive parce qu'il me donne la foi et le courage de passer au travers de cela peut importe ce que Satan me dit ou me suggère. Lorsque tu seras dans le trouble comme je le suis, souviens-toi que Dieu est le seul qui peut te comprendre parfaitement. En effet, tu pourras compter sur les doigts d'une seule main ceux qui te comprendront et je suis plutôt généreuse ici.

    Merci de prendre la peine de traduire ce petit mot pour comprendre ce que je dis dans ma langue maternelle, ami(e). Dieu te bénisse.

    Sincèrement,

    Une véritable enfant de Dieu


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    Welcome To My World

    Non seulement on contrôle totalement ma vie mais la population en général me blâme pour tout ce qu’il m’arrive.
     
    Bienvenue dans le Nouvel Ordre Mondial. 
     
    Malheureusement, ton tour s’en vient pas mal plus vite que tu le penses de jouir de la vie comme j’ai le « privilège » d’en jouir présentement et je suis désolée pour ce qui va t’arriver parce que tu vas voir que la vie n’est vraiment pas facile, mon cher Citoyen Américain et Canadien. 
     
    Dieu est bon quoiqu’il m’arrive parce qu’il me donne la foi et le courage de passer au travers de cela peut importe ce que Satan me dit ou me suggère.  Lorsque tu seras dans le trouble comme je le suis, souviens-toi que Dieu est le seul qui peut te comprendre parfaitement.  En effet, tu pourras compter sur les doigts d’une seule main ceux qui te comprendront et je suis plutôt généreuse ici.
     
    Merci de prendre la peine de traduire ce petit mot pour comprendre ce que je dis dans ma langue maternelle, ami(e).  Dieu te bénisse. 
     
    Sincèrement, 
     
    Une véritable enfant de Dieu
     
     


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    December 07

    About the Moderator

    WELCOME TO THE NAZI/ILLUMINATI/JESUIT NEW WORLD ORDER !

    MY GOAL IS TO FIND A WAY TO FACE IT AND I WON'T BE THE ONLY ONE FACING IT VERY SOON. BETTER FOR YOU TO BEGIN TO STUDY WHAT IN THE WORLD IN GOING ON IN AMERICA AND CANADA.

    I always try to be as precise as possible and as complete as possible (I am always researching the truth) because I am representing the Truth on earth because Jesus is the Truth. (Jn. 14:6) In other words, Jesus is the only one saying the plain truth and I do my very best to research with the abilities He gave me to be as near as possible I can get from the truth. Don't take my words for it, research everything I am telling ya because you'll discover I am really trying to know the truth as much near as possible if you'd research. The only one you can rely on telling you the 100% truth is the Lord Himself and I do all I can to be as near as I can get from the truth by my own searches in the Word of God and what is really going on and I do know I am doing a good job simply because I am working very hard and God gave me the abilities to do so - I am a trained researcher, not only having a master's degree but also having the ability to criticize the methodology of scientific articles and no matter the field of expertise and I also have the ability to research the informations I need and I have the Holy Spirit in me to lead me in the process. Please do not misunderstand me here. I am not saying I am the truth - only Jesus IS THE TRUTH - nor I am pretending like this imbeciles to have a direct connection with God, to be His Apostle or Prophet. The revelation is given so there is no need of the "regular" prophets anymore, except the type of prophet described very clearly in the New Testament.

    My message is we are in the New World Order. The mark of the beast will be mandatory according to my researches most likely between 2012 and 2015. The New World Order destroyed our plans (but not our love) and next round I’d prefer to die than to let the New World Order to literally trash me. I do not fear to be beheaded (Rev. 20:4) IF it is God's will for me to Glorify Him this way but I would sincerely prefer to just go live in the wilderness instead. (out of city is what I mean and you'll have to be able to produce your own stuff to eat - not the literal desert because you need to know that we only have the food supply of only three (3) days for the grocery stores so after these three days the population will begin to starve if they are too much dependent on the system - do your own search) I am here to tell something very bad is about to happen in U.S. and Canada and I am the living example of it because my life is destroyed and I must live with it. I don't care to be perceived as a nut anymore, I am used to it by now because of the type of life I have and not of my fault. But if I could find in my actual "wilderness" just a couple of friends who would care about me like I would care about them, then my goal would be reached. I am maybe short sighted but it's preferable that than to be a dreamer in this world. What I mean by caring about me is they would be concerned like I would be their sister in the flesh if they would throw me out the Country like a garbage bag next June 2008. I lived more than my shared of heart aches. And I have all the reasons to believe this because they almost dropped me like a dog ONE DAY before my husband's burial on Dec. 11th, 2006 so that means they almost prevented me to BURY MY OWN HUSBAND ON DEC. 12TH, 2006. This is based on facts, how U.S. Immigration treated us since Nov. 3rd, 2004.

    So.............I wish to do my humble part to POSTPONE the distribution of the Mark of the Beast and this National ID card and IF my humble efforts will only contribute at .001% to POSTPONE them, then my goal will be reached i.e. to bless America, my home on earth for now (but I have all the reasons to believe it is not for very long) and to flee away from my actual persecution.

    I also found out where it is safer for my Dear Americans to be in the US
    If you'd read and listen carefully this link:

    http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-.nv5DWs8erSpEGVZKpn.gCLG93gBjAe_?p=1110
    here is why the NATO forces (Chinese, Russian and European troops) will invade US and send the Christians, Patriots and everybody opposed to this New World Order in the concentration camps.

    According to the U.S. historian Eric Phelps
    http://www.vaticanassassins.org
    the Chinese and the Russians will get the West, the Muslims and Chinese will get the South and the North East will be taken by Europe - please listen to the 5 minutes video below but for more informations please go on his website I mentioned above and you will get the entire document.

    Nova Scotia, Canada is a good place to flee from this coming persecution of course if you can (or Europe for the ones who can afford it) because it will never be given to the Chinese and to the Muslims because it is part of England - it's part of the Commonwealth of England and Halifax, Nova Scotia will never be given to Rome:

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=pk1NcGUJ6go
    But keep reading because you don't have to be rich to be in a safe place inside the U.S. if you are willing to go North. Here's your solution:

    Reply from brother Eric Jon Phelps and here is his
    recommendation to the U.S. Citizens:


    From:"Eric Phelps" <eric@vaticanassassins.org>
    To:"Marie" <>
    Subject: Re: I look forward to help
    Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 13:01:15 -0500

    Dear Marie,

    I would recommend New England as the safest place to be in the US in the coming years.
    Thanks for the greetings to the family.
    Sincerely in faith,
    Brother Eric

    ----- Original Message -----
    From:
    To: Eric
    Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 11:45 AM
    Subject: I look forward to help

    Dear Eric,

    Is there U.S. states which are part of the Commonwealth of England please? I am trying to figure out in which states my dear Americans are safer if they can not leave the country. I did not find them online yet but my bet is the states in the New England area of the U.S. My question is based on this part of your video:

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=pk1NcGUJ6go

    I need to know where it is safer Eric please. I really look forward what I can do for the Americans because my husband was not only an American but he is buried in a protestant Cemetery in America and he was the first person who loved me in my entire life.

    Sincerely in Christ,
    and my warm Greetings to Danita, Skylar and Spiderman


    Marie



    ++++++++++++++++

    A sincere thank you to Brother Eric for these precious informations and the fact that he is not scared to tell the truth.

    I need real and true friends in the U.S. who can understand me and help me in my projects for the Church.
    Here is a sister who truly does understand me:
    Bless you Marie for the evident love you hold in your heart for the brethren. Thank you for sharing your concern for our safety, and the evident investigative work you feel led to do. You have certainly give much to pray about and look into. Be at peace dear one.
    Mon Dec 03 01:05pm PST

    In fact, I lost the only person who loved me in my entire life 1 year ago tomorrow - he died Dec. 5th, 2006 (Rev. Ashley McDonald Buchanan)
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/The-Truth-Ministries/
    I don't mind to die in a hail of bullets IF IT IS GOD'S WILL FOR ME (and I do NOT recommend to join the militia) but I truly don't want to end in a concentration camp. Give me the liberty or the death !


    +++++++++++++++++

    On the other side, I don't wish you to misunderstand me. Yes, I am here to find folks who will first search the truth about what's going on and help me to create a wilderness survival type of community. That does not mean if you won't "buy" that idea that I will reject you. (you in general) In fact, you (in general) may change your mind in the process because you (in general) will see people disappearing and not coming back and that may click in your mind that yes, there is a big problem going on and join us. You may begin to wake up when you will have problems with your "wonderful" National ID card imposed to you by the Department of Homeland INsecurity.

    Please enjoy my friendship no matter if you will join the community or not. It's not even created yet but I trust the Lord to help me because I truly believe I am called to create one with my knowledge of the Word of God and my knowledge of what's going on plus what happened in my own life. The Lord allowed all my sufferings to happen in order to serve His Church which is not a building but our own bodies.
    +++++++++++++++

    Sometimes we have the false impression the Lord wish to destroy us by the very bad events in our lives. But in fact, He is sharping and shaping our personality through sometimes terrible events (sometimes not using terrible events though but seems the bad events are working better for that purpose) because He wants us to be more Christ like. That's the goal. (reference: the book of Job)

    I won't go back to where I was before these very disturbing events. I learned and I won't deny anything of what I lived and I actually see to just make people happy and this is including Pastors in my town who are mostly blind about what is really going on. Their lives is not broken, right? They'll talk to me when their lives will be destroyed by this New World Order and maybe then we will be on the same page, maybe not.

    WELCOME TO THE NAZI/ILLUMINATI/JESUIT NEW WORLD ORDER ! SINCE THE MARK OF THE BEAST IS PREDICTED TO BE MANDATORY IN THE WORD OF GOD REV. 13, THEN EVENTUALLY WE WILL HAVE TO GO LIVE TYPE OF WILDERNESS SURVIVAL....OR DIE BY STARVATION OR IN A HAIL OF BULLETS. OR WORSE, BEHEADED. Just a side thought: I don't want to be treated like the Iraqis by the cie killing business called BLACKWATER created by a Navy Seal and living in the mountains of North Carolina.

    Please do not misunderstand me: I believe in the rapture before the 7 years of God's wrath poured on earth. Most folks are mixing persecution of satan and the wrath of God. What your government is about to impose you i.e. the National ID card is persecution because now you will have to have the permission of the Department of Homeland INsecurity to work and to go to another state. Don't believe me? You'll see for yourself soon enough because they are pushing it so hard the only way that would not work is that most of the Americans would be against it and I have the tendency to believe that won't happen. Why?
    BECAUSE THERE IS NOT ENOUGH AMERICANS AGAINST IT RIGHT NOW!!!
    To date, ONLY 37765 people have taken the NoNationalID pledge
    http://www.nonationalid.com/TakeAction.aspx#pb


    WAKE UP AND BE AGAINST IT !! WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR??? TO HAVE NO RIGHTS LIKE ME??? IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE IN A MESS LIKE I AM AND ASK THEIR PERMISSION TO CONTINUE TO BREATH THEN CLICK ON THE LINK BELOW:
    http://www.nonationalid.com/TakeAction.aspx#pb

    and put a dot right here:
    I am opposed to the National ID (The Real ID Act).
    FOR GOD'S SAKE, STAND FOR WHAT IS RIGHT !!!!

    So to have this National ID card brought to you by the Department of Homeland INsecurity is not the wrath of God, it is persecution i.e. limiting you in your rights. Still don't believe me?

    All U.S. citizens to receive National ID card by 2008

    The Real ID Act, passed by Congress and signed by President Bush on May 11, 2005, mandates that all U.S. citizens will receive a National ID card by May of 2008.

    Without this National ID, you won't...
    • Drive your car
    • Board a plane, train, or bus
    • Enter any federal building
    • Open a bank account
    • Hold a job
    If you can’t hold a job or have a bank account, how much buying and selling will you be able to do?
    Source:
    http://www.nonationalid.com/default.aspx

    I began this profile by referring to the Word of God and I am concluding the same way and it is scientifically proven that people remember what is said first and what is said at the end of a communication so I am making sure that you do understand me or at the very least I am doing my very best to be understood. If you want to have a map for what you are experiencing on earth, read the word of God. Jesus is the Truth and He will tell you how to enter in Heaven because He is the door, He is the Truth, He is the Way and He is the Life and THE means there is only one way to enter. Don't bother to try Bouddha, Khrisna, Allah, The Pope because you will end in hell for sure and it is surely not a place you want to go if you would read the Bible. But I am living my body - my spirit did not leave my body yet - and I am living on earth and I am exposing what is going on not to discourage you but to help you to see the truth and more precisely to turn to God for your own needs because the only reason I am sane yet is because He is with me, no matter what Satan is sometimes telling me through the folks around me.

    Your soul is the most important thing in your life so make sure to accept the offer God is giving to you through His Word. After your soul is saved, then try to save your own life and the lives of your loved ones for what is about to happen in America. DO YOUR OWN SEARCH BECAUSE IF YOU WOULD JUST BOTHER TO READ MY PROFILE YOU WOULD MOST LIKELY BELIEVE I AM A NUT AND I AM VERY FAR FROM BEING ONE AND I TRULY DON'T CARE ABOUT WHAT SATAN THINKS ABOUT ME. In fact, I have a master degree, I am a certified researcher, I am a translator, I am a bible scholar without going to a bible school, I am doing education online and I have other skills I don't need to mention here. But since I am submitting myself to the word of God, I am not a Pastor because it is not a woman's role to be a top leader in the Christianity but I am called to be a leader with or a man if I will marry again or with men if I will remain single. BUT FOR NOW ALL I WANT IS FRIENDSHIP. Even when I am with a man to see if we would be the perfect match as a couple as also as a team for the Glory of God, I don't want the touching business in the picture so I surely and certainly don't want touching business as friends. Maybe with a woman if I am sure she is not a lesbian.

    My Dear Americans should not disarm. DON'T. It's what Hitler did to the Jews and others before sending them in concentration camps. Just a side though to chew on for a while. Arms by themselves are not evil. It's what folks are doing with them that can be evil. To protect yourself and especially your family from an invasion of folks wanting to do evil to you when there is a natural disaster in your area like to steal your food you need to eat to survive is not evil. Again, there is only a three (3) days food supply for grocery stores. Don't count on FEMA to protect yourself and your loved ones in these perilous times.

    Thanks for reading my profile - for the ones who have eyes to read, it is worth to connect with me:-).
    Here is a testimony from a friend in Christ:
    Marie, you are either crazier than a loon or the nearest to God's heart. As a Christian your frankness and honesty, your courage and commitment to the truth...is very humbling to me. I take to heart Father's warnings. And this word presses me to draw into his fold as He shepherds us through the coming storm. He has said...though we walk through the valley of the shadow of death...we need not fear evil...for His rod and staff will comfort us. He will provide our needs. We will be led to green pastures, and lay down by still waters. He has promised to keep all that we commit unto Him against that day....Lord, give us ears to hear, as you call us by name to do your perfect will. Bless Marie as she seeks to please you and serve you....


    God bless you My Dear Americans and Canadians. My Love and my Total Devotion is to the real Church of the Lord Jesus Christ x o x (and for the Canadians, we need to find out if there is concentration camps in Canada because I think that is the case but I do NOT base my informations only on my beliefs and just a couple of sources so more investigation is needed to find out, ok?)


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    Is There an I.D. Chip in Your Future?

    By Heather Sells
    CBN News
    December 3, 2007

    CBNNews.com - There's a growing movement to forcibly tag or chip your
    animals with radio frequency identification devices. Many privacy
    advocates believe this could lead to a scarier level: implanting you and
    me. Now, there is an effort to stem the tide.

    Introducing NAIS

    Greg Niewendorp raises cattle in northern Michigan. Time in the saddle
    is one of the best parts of the day for this fifth generation farmer.
    But these days, he's spending lots of time holed up in his home office.
    Why? Niewendorp and other small farmers are fighting the government's
    plans to identify and track every single farm animal in the country.
    Human Implants:
    Are We Ready?
    It's called NAIS or National Animal Identification System.

    "Our primary interest is protecting the food supply by having a rapid
    system that can reach out and address the needs for the primary food
    animals," said USDA Undersecretary Bruce Knight.

    On October 8, Michigan AG officials arrived on Niewendorp's farm with a
    search warrant. But Niewendorp refused to allow them to put RFID tags on
    his cattle and the state chipped his entire herd.
    Pressure forced Niewendorp to give in that day, but his story spread
    rapidly in farming circles -making him "the face" of a grass-roots
    opposition movement.

    "The tag goes in the ear. They give me a premises I.D. number. Now
    they've got a national number on my cattle, a national number on my
    land. I might still technically own the animal but they're controlling
    what I can and can't do with it," he said.
    While this may be the law in Michigan, Wisconsin and Indiana, the USDA
    insists the federal identification program is not mandatory.
    Knight said, "It can, it should and it will work on a voluntary basis."

    Still, privacy experts say many USDA programs already require an NAIS
    number. And small farmers like Virginian Scott Wilson worry about the
    cost of buying tags and tracking animals.
    "To be effective they're going to need 100 percent participation in this
    program and that is really going to put an undue burden on us as small
    farmers," Wilson said.
    The USDA wants to be able to track animals quickly in the event of a
    disease outbreak. It believes NAIS will do that and help encourage
    confidence in the safety of our food supply - in the eyes of both
    consumers and global markets.

    Like It or Not, NAIS is Fast Becoming Reality

    More than 1.5 million RFID tags are spread across some 400,000 farms
    today.The USDA is now accepting bids for an additional million and a
    half tags. The latest development: ? The USDA has approved implantable
    RFID devices for livestock.
    Pets aren't supposed to be part of this program, but activist Barb
    Haywood is not so sure. She and others in the dog world say mandatory
    pet chipping is already happening in many communities.
    "A microchip is not a benign device. A microchip is a data collection
    device - a data collection device that's designed not just to collect
    data on your dog - but you," Haywood said.

    Haywood fears the government and pet companies will use the information
    to enforce policies and sell products.
    Right now, pet chipping is the law in places like unincorporated Los
    Angeles country, Stockton, California and El Paso, Texas. Pet chip
    companies emphasize the joy of chips helping to reunite lost pets with
    their families.

    But privacy expert Katherine Albrecht wonders how many pet owners know
    about the cancer studies she recently uncovered. The studies show chip
    implants that caused malignant tumors in lab rats and mice.
    "It may not be such a good idea to force people to chip their family
    companions when there may be even a slight chance that there's a cancer
    link there," said Albrecht.
    What about the 'Human' Implant Market?

    Another concern is that animal implants may speed up the growth of the
    human implant market. That's because Digital Angel, a major manufacturer
    of animal chips, is owned by the same company that makes the human
    implant, Verichip.
    Since the FDA approved Verichip in 2004, it has set up shop in more than
    900 hospitals. Verichip assures patients that in a medical emergency, a
    simple wave of a scanner could correctly identify them and their medical
    information.
    But Verichip is working through health concerns of its own.

    Susan Byrne received her chip in July, and says her arm still hurts.

    "The next day, that's when I really felt discomfort. I felt like I was
    having an injection 24/7 - like the needle was still in my arm," Byme
    said.

    She says Verichip told her she was the first patient to ask that her
    chip be removed. But Byme is skeptical, and Verichip did not respond to
    CBN News' calls on the subject.

    Opponents of the Verichip also worry that human implants will one day be
    mandatory.
    "There is actually a growing concern that an HMO or an employer could
    actually require a person to be micro-chipped to get insurance or to
    keep a job," Albrecht said.
    So far, Wisconsin, North Dakota, and California have all passed laws
    forbidding the mandatory chipping of people.

    But for many animals, it may be too late.

    "We're a very small voice right now going against the tide saying, 'Hey,
    this doesn't make sense,' Wilson said.
    What makes sense to both sides is safety. It seems, though, that no one
    can agree. But at what price?

    Source:

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    December 03

    Here is the recommandation of my preferred U.S. Historian Eric Phelps to my Dear Americans

    If you'd read and listen carefully this link:

    http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-.nv5DWs8erSpEGVZKpn.gCLG93gBjAe_?p=1110

    here is why the NATO forces (Chinese, Russian and European troops) will invade US and send the Christians, Patriots and everybody opposed to this New World Order in the concentration camps.

    According to the U.S. historian Eric Phelps
    http://www.vaticanassassins.org
    the Chinese and the Russians will get the West, the Muslims and Chinese will get the South and the North East will be taken by Europe - please listen to the 5 minutes video below but for more informations please go on his website I mentioned above and you will get the entire document.

    Nova Scotia is the best place for Americans to go to flee this coming persecution of course if you can (or Europe for the ones who can afford it) because it will never be given to the Chinese and to the Muslims because it is part of England - it's part of the Commonwealth of England and Halifax, Nova Scotia will never be given to Rome:

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=pk1NcGUJ6go

    Timely update: I just got a reply from brother Eric and here is his
    recommandation to the U.S. Citizens:


    From:"Eric Phelps" <eric@vaticanassassins.org>
    To:"Marie Buchanan" <marielovesashley@yahoo.ca>
    Subject: Re: I look forward to help
    Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 13:01:15 -0500

    Dear Marie,

    I would recommend New England as the safest place to be in the US in the coming years.
    Thanks for the greetings to the family.
    Sincerely in faith,
    Brother Eric

    ----- Original Message -----
    To: Eric
    Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 11:45 AM
    Subject: I look forward to help


    Dear Eric,

    Is there U.S. states which are part of the Commonwealth of England please? I am trying to figure out in which states my dear Americans are safer if they can not leave the country. I did not find them online yet but my bet is the states in the New England area of the U.S. My question is based on this part of your video:

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=pk1NcGUJ6go

    I need to know where it is safer Eric please. I really look forward what I can do for the Americans because my husband was not only an American but he is buried in a protestant Cemetery in America and he was the first person who loved me in my entire life.

    Sincerely in Christ,
    and my warm Greetings to Danita, Skylar and Spiderman


    Marie


    ++++++++++++++++

    A sincere thank you to Brother Eric for these precious informations and the fact that he is not scared to tell the truth.

    I need real and true friends in the U.S. who can understand what is going on not just for me but also because I have a noble goal in mind and you have to read between the lines to know what this goal is but as a tip I am not in U.S. for fun and I am not a Canadian for no reason and I did not pass through all the mess I passed through for nothing - God has a specific plan for me even if my life would end in a couple of years. If you are not racist - because it is looking like I won't become an American because U.S. Immigration is giving me a hard time since Nov. 3rd, 2004 - then you'll like me. God knows me and He knows that I am willing to die for the justice, the truth and for what is right. I have no real family and I lost the only person who loved me 1 year ago in exactly two days (Rev. Ashley McDonald Buchanan)
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/The-Truth-Ministries/
    so I have nothing to lose and everything to gain. I don't mind to die in a hail of bullets but I truly don't want to end in a concentration camp.

    Give me the liberty or the death !


    Marie M. Buchanan, M.Ps.
    Researcher, Webmaster, Pastor-Assistant, Translator, Blogger
    http://360.yahoo.com/marielovesashley
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/How_To_Face_This_New_World_Order/


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    The Four Beasts of Daniel 7 - this is a MUST

    If you'd read and listen carefully this link:
    http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-.nv5DWs8erSpEGVZKpn.gCLG93gBjAe_?p=1110

    here is why the NATO forces (Chinese, Russian and European troops) will invade US and send the Christians, Patriots and everybody opposed to this New World Order in the concentration camps. 

    According to the U.S. historian Eric Phelps
    http://www.vaticanassassins.org
    the Chinese and the Russians will get the West, the Muslims and Chinese will get the South and the North East will be taken by Europe - please listen to the 5 minutes video below but for more informations please go on his website I mentionned above and you will get the entire document. 

    Nova Scotia is the best place for Americans to go to flee this coming persecution if of course you can (or Europe for the ones who can afford it) because it will never be given to the Chinese and to the Muslims because it is part of England - it's commonwealth of England and Halifax, Nova Scotia will never be given to Rome:

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=pk1NcGUJ6go
    If you can not go outside U.S. then you know what you need to do.

    A sincere thank you to Brother Eric for these precious informations and the fact that he is not scared to tell the truth.

    I need real and true friends in the U.S. who can understand what is going on not just for me but also because I have a noble goal in mind and you have to read between the lines to know what this goal is but as a tip I am not in U.S. for fun and I am not Canadian for no reason and I did not pass through all the mess I passed through for nothing - God has a specific plan for me even if my life would end in a couple of years.  If you are not racist - because it is looking like I won't become an American because U.S. Immigration is giving me a hard time since Nov. 3rd, 2004 - then you'll like me.  God knows me and He knows that I am willing to die for the justice, the truth and for what is right.  I have no real family and I lost the only person who loved me 1 year ago in exactly two days so I have nothing to lose and everything to gain.  I don't mind to die in a hail of bullets but I truly don't want to end in a concentration camp.

    Give me the liberty or the death !



    Marie M. Buchanan, M.Ps.
    Researcher, Webmaster, Pastor-Assistant, Translator, Blogger
    http://360.yahoo.com/marielovesashley
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/How_To_Face_This_New_World_Order/


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